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Question:
If you are planning to start new key programming business, and Need to buy key programmer and key cutting machine. What is best solution with Small budget? Please go on reading this article.
Part 1: What Key programmer for new business?
Part 2: What Key cutting machine for new business?
Part 1: What Key Programmer For New Business?
I want to start key programming business, I’d like to listen to the senior locksmiths’ option What Key programmer , software, cutting machine to invest.
In France:
covering 98% of keys market ( no including Mercedes )
LONSDOR + DEFU = big money !
it’s an fact , not an advise , invest today more money = “ZIRO”
2.
I m not really the best person to give you advice since i m pretty much a beginner too.
I use to do radios ,airbag and ecus programming but last year i decided to go into keys too.At that moment i did only programming and i use to sent my customers to local locksmits to cut the key (that wasn t comfortable for the customer) .
I bought a DEFU 368 recently and it s working just fine for laser cutting (200$)
Now into programming.
You will need a good programmer, i have VVDI PROG (500$) and other clones (xprog,upa ….)
I recommend you to buy FVDI clone (i have 2014 and is pretty good on cars before 2010 mostly opel, renault,vag)
For Mercedes i have CGDI ,and is a great tool ,very fast and efective( with full adapters it goes to 800$ roughly)
FVDI J2534 for FORD and Mazdas
I m waiting for CGDI BMW to arrive for bmws.
As i said ,i m a beginner but i start to like this locksmith area .I m looking into more tools
There are another tools (cheaper clones) that will help .
3.
Londsor, Autel im508, OBD star or x100pad 2
but you can’t work only with 1 tool
you will need lot of other tools
Something good for Ford other for Fiat other for Opel VW BMW Benz and etc.
Tools like Lonsdor have wide range but they can’t program perfect no one brand
and if you want to work professional you must have special tool for every brand
and total easy will go over 20 000 euro also you must have cutting machine and keys in stock.
4.
the bmw is likely cas3+ in which case you need to eeprom the cas unit to have the original dump and tools that can do this safely . better tools are vvdi2 and abrites
mercedes i know im608 does some , but more likely you need tools like vvdi mb or abrites
these are not vehicles universal programmers work well on and can end in tears.
the 508 is not a diagnostic machine at all………………………………….
the im608 has diagnostics but not even the full diagnostics and capabilities of the elite
but the elite has nowhere the key learning capability of the 608 or 508 +xp400
the 508 is just keys my man no diagnostics
5.
I have both the IM608 and the elite.
After using the IM608 for a couple months, I passed the elite on to apprentice.
Big update for the IM608 just dropped today too for IMMO.
As far as I can tell there is no difference in diag functions between the two.
I use IM608 over elite for diag as well basically because it has faster CPU and the interface is a bit better (preference)
Part 2: What key cutting machine for new business?
First – you can’t compare Manual and Automatic machine.
If you need Automatic – it depends on the volume of work you have to cover.
X6 is good for very low volume. It has spare parts you can buy in case something dies.
I’m not a fan of the kkkcut SEC machines, so can’t give a recommendation on them.
If you need to cover middle volume of work or you have more demanding requirements on quality and stability, you should go with the automobile version of Miracle or with the Condor Mini machines. Both are almost equal but have some differences. Good thing is they both have very good support and will do most of the work without questions. For me Condor (non plus version can be found for less than the Plus and there’s no functional differences) would be the choice if I had to cover only car keys. It has more benefits, like getting VVDI BGA tool with big discount.
1). Differences with Dolphin are obvious. So what about it?
Xhorse Dolphin works only by connecting and controlling with your phone, like KDX2.
For me using your phone for key cutting is a bit limiting – you can’t go outside because it will loose sync and may influence the cutting. Better option will be to dedicate a tablet only for the machine.
But still it is a smaller, more economical machine. So it will better serve those with lower level of workloads.
2). i have the condor mini, and i love it, only issues ive ever had was cutting hu58 (key worked still but cut shoulder where it shouldnt have a cut) and recent updates gave my condor a few issues, but latest issue fixed everything and now works perfect like it did before the last few updates. i plan to purchase the dolphin, easier to transport and runs off battery (i can power my mini with a powerstation, but rather 1 less thing to connect).
3). The Dolphin has 4 clamps, with tibbee, sx9, car keys, normal and dimple cylinders
I got the Condor Mini and works ok sometimes, It has broken a few probes/tracer with no idea why. Even calibrated prior and still broke a few probes on Honda cuts and a 1.5 drill on a Mitsubishi, it just goes through the key as if there wasn’t anything there. It’s done it a few times, then I started using Instacode from my phone to send the decode and cut commands and at least it hasn’t broke any so far. So seems it’s ok for now.
To be upgrading with the development of locksmith tools and technology.
Latest version 2020.7 Subaru SSM IV (Subaru Select Monitor 4) software has been tested and verified working no issue with vxdiag Subaru diagnostic interface. Obdii365.com here provides SSM IV software and patch download for free.
Software version: SSM3 2020.7; SSM4 V22.60
Operating system: Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 10
Compatible device: VXDIAG Subaru SSM3 SSM4 scan tool
Step 1: Free Download VXDIAG Subaru SSM3 SSM4 2020.7 Software
https://mega.nz/folder/ucIEhR7J#QUGAbagyLLsCslE585Fu2Q
Contains: SSM3 2020.7; SSM4 V22.60; FlashWrite 2
Step 2. Free Download Subaru SSM4 Patch (Required)
https://mega.nz/folder/zJASHJ6b#FgXQQluqoFyVSKkQ2k5KMw
Image 1: after browsing the link of SSM4 2020.7 Software.
Image 2: SSM4 Function Menu: Diagnosis, immobilizer registration, Reprogram, Generic OBDII, Reading Driving Recorder.
Image 3: Subaru patch, please make sure download it and install it.
Subaru Select Monitor IV SSM4 V22.60 Improvements:
1.The Subaru Select Monitor IV provides dealer level systems coverage and functionality.
2. SSM4 works with Subaru vehicles from MY2016 onwards; SSM3 works with Subaru from 1998 to 2018.
3. More SSM3 and SSM4 comparison can be found in the previous post:
FreeSSM vs SSM 3 vs SSM 4 (Subaru Select Monitor)
SSM4 V22.60 Installation:
The engineer will make video, one it is done, I will share here.
Related SSM3 2018.10 software download & installation, please check:
How to Set up 2018.10 VXDIAG Subaru SSM3 Software on Windows 7?
VXDIAG Subaru Select Monitor IV FAQs:
Question: Upgrade Subaru SSM3 software directly to SSM4?
Answer: No, not possible. Please download the above SSM4 software and patch.
Question: Is the VXDiag Subaru diagnostic tool Worth it??
Answer: IMO it will be when you have an issue with any of the systems and can easily view live data and error codes. Or program a new key when you lose one.
Question: SSM3 had an error “can’t function without SSM4 being activated”…… I did upgrade Firmware once or twice in the past few months, this may have been the cause.
Answer: You have to make sure that you run ssm iii from the vx diag software, not just clicking ssm iii from the desktop or start menu. If you run either iii or iv from somewhere other than vxdiag you may need to re-run the vx diag crack and or reinstall.I don’t see anything that vx ssm iii can’t do that a dealer can do.
Conclusion:
I spend some time to read some users’ reviews of Subaru SSM3 software, they feedback they had some great success with changing some settings but sadly the access to all sections seems limited though…
” I initially wanted to change a few standards settings like the Lock/Unlock chirpand assumed the shrill chirp for other warnings was just a matter of getting into the ECU with SSM4 and activating it, it is there in the list when I look but I cant seem to get it to activate the Chirp”
“I wanted to activate TPMS but realise my module in the rear driver side panel that handles it is NOT a combined TPMS/Keyless entry type and mine is just Keyless entry.”
” I did adjust my fuel ranger to suit ACTUAL estimates to a more accurate percentage ( SSM4 allows this to adjust % of millage)”
=> So they are considering swapping one out to see if SSS4 will archive these performance.
Alright, take action to download SSM4 and have a try on what it can work more than SSM3. And any more users feedback, obdii365.com will continue write here for your reference.
Question:
I had this two errors when trying to read N46 MEV1721 DME ISN using Yanhua Mini ACDP... and now it does not wanna connect through Bluetooth after I reinstalled the app.
Reading isn through bench mode using X8 bench interface
Any idea what's going on?
This is the image of the N46 DME
2 errors
DME communication error
Obdii365.com solution:
This DME has 4 digit ISN code. It can be done via OBP + ICP adpater connection (cable is included in the default package), does not require the N46 X8 interface board.
Connect DME N46 and Yanhua ACDP as pictures below:
Select OBD/CAN Mode Read ISN->Read MEV9N46 DME ISN or MEV9N46L DME ISN
Then follow ACDP Mini prompts until success.
http://www.key-programmer.org/2020/12/09/read-bmw-mev9n46-dme-isn-with-yanhua-mini-acdp/
Update! Yanhua Mini ACDP added Module 16 for Mercedes Benz Gearbox Clone / Refresh (No soldering, No Risk). What it covers and how to perform, please go on reading.
Mercedes-Benz (VGS-FDCT/ VGS2-FDCT) dual-clutch gearbox;
Mercedes-Benz 722.8 (VGS2-FCVT) gearbox
Mercedes-Benz 722.9-2 (VGS2-NAG2) gearbox
Mercedes-Benz 722.9 -3 (VGS3-NAG2) gearbox
Features:
The dedicated interface board connecting method will replace the traditional plugging wire method, which will prevent plug wire to opposite direction and wrong place, simple and efficient, plug and play, safe and reliable.
Look at the 3 dedicated interface board:
The board and software authorization from:
https://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/yanhua-mini-acdp-benz-gearbox-clone-module.html
Let’s move on how to virgin/reflash Mercedes-Benz 722.9-2 (VGS2-NAG2) gearbox using Yanhua Mini ACDP:
Open Mini ACDP (on your phone or on your computer), it will pop up there is new update, just click on Yes to update to the newest version.
Select Benz function-> Gearbox clone/refresh->C class->VGS2-NAG2->Refresh->
Loading hardware program to 100.
As you can see, it will show if the device is connected successfully, so that you can go the next step.
It will have prompt “Please connect ACDP with gearbox”.
Connecting system, please wait…
Reading system info, please wait…
Have the system info.
Personalized: Yes
Activated: Yes
Note: Please screenshot the result.
Back up the file (it is very important)
Next is to get the erasing password by automatically or manual.
We select “Automatic” and follow the prompt not to unplug or plug the device during the online password calculation process.
Erase system data until finish.
Generate the logs.
Back up the file.
It shows Refresh yes, click on “Indentify” to confirm.
Alright, it really works, as you can see:
Personalized: NO
Activated: NO
Back up the file;
Identify system information finish.
Mercedes-Benz 722.9-2 (VGS2-NAG2) gearbox refresh using Yanhua ACDP successfully.
Please back to read on how to clone Mercedes-Benz (VGS-FDCT/ VGS2-FDCT) dual-clutch gearbox and Mercedes-Benz 722.8 (VGS2-FCVT) gearbox.
Enjoy!
https://www.obdii365.com/service/yanhua-mini-acdp-clone-benz-gearbox.html
ISN reading is required to make a new key or dme cloning. Here’s some clue on reading/write ISN from BMW DME MSD80/MSD802 using different tools.
Yanhua Mini ACDP
Read OK
Write OK
For E series
Yanhua Mini ACDP is a perfect solution to BMW MSD80/MSD802 DME ISN read & write.
All you need:
Yanhua ACDP Mini main unit
ACDP Module 3 (only read MSD802)
MSD802 ISN Interface Board (if you need to write)
Notes:
1.Please connect ACDP with DME properly, don’t cut the power nor pull out the device during the programming, carefully backup the ISN data;
2.Programming is needed for reading the DME ISN, and it may cause risk, please consider before moving ahead;
3. If reading the ISN ended with an error, please use Winkfp or ISTAP to program the DME to work status, then proceed to read ISN again.
Okay, here we go for procedure:
Step 1. Please prepare ACDP, OBP+ICP adaptation, PCAN line and DME.
Step 2. Connect the PCAN line correctly to the DME interface as shown.
Step 3. Short the CAN resistor on the OBP + ICP adapter to the “CAN-R Join”.
Step 4. Connect the ACDP, OBP+ICP adapter, PCAN line and DME.
Step 5. Connect ACDP, OBP+ICP adapter, interface board and DME.
Run Yanhua ACDP software on mobile phone or PC
Look at Mini ACDP software menu below, click on “BMW”.
Click on “DME ISN”.
Click on “OBD / CAN Mode Read / Write ISN”.
Click on “Read MSD80 / MSD802 DME ISN (Support E Chassis)”.
Here are function menu:
ECU Info.
Read ISN /PSW
Backup FLASH
Restore FLASH
Upgrade program
ECU Reset
Modify VIN.
Go on operating by following the on-screen instruction.
Next is to write MSD802 DME ISN with Yanhua ACDP Mini
With one extra MSD802 DME ISN Interface Board Set, ACDP Mini can write MSD802
VVDI2 BMW/ VVDI BMW/ VVDI BIMTool Pro
Read OK (only E series)
Write Failed
support read DME module information, read ISN and write VIN via OBDII, does not support write ISN via OBDII
Read OK (for E series only)
Write Not OK
Read MSD80 ISN requires MSD80/81/85/87/MSV90 ISN license
CG AT-200 Programmer
Read OK
Write OK
For E series Only
Write ISN requires BMW MSD80, MSD81, MSD85, MSD87, MSV80, MSV90 software license
Procedure:
Autohex II for BMW
DME /DDE E Series long ISN (SK):
MSV80, MSD80, MSD81, MSD85, MSD85Y, MSS60, MEVD176K, ME17N45, MED17_2, MED17_2N, MEV17_2, MEV17N46, MEVD174K, MEVD174KW, MV1722, MVD1722, MEVD172, MEVD1724, MEVD1725, MEVD172Y, MEVD17KW, D70N47A0, D70N47B0, D71N47A0, D71N47B0, D71N47C0, D71N47D0, D72N47A0, D72N47B0, D73N47A0, D73N57A0, D73N57B0, D73N57C0, D73N57D0.
Reference: Autohex can read and write MSD80 ISN in bench mode
BMW explorer
Read OK
Reading module ISN MSD80 MSD81 MSD802 MSD812 MSD851 MSV80 MSV801 via OBD
Read & write ISN and VIN for siemens MSV80 MSD80 MSD85 E series
Since version 14.05.31 BMW-Explorer started to read ISN (SK)from Siemens MSD80, MSD85 and MSV80 electronic units.
To read the ISN you need to connect to DME, enter Extra options, press ISN/PSW
After DME programming procedure BMW-Explorer will display ISN and also store it in a text file in the logs.
To read ISN from Siemens DME, several conditions must be fulfilled:
If the ISN reading fails, make flash-update DME with Winkfp or SSS and repeat the ISN reading again.
Supported DME MSD80
7568842 7573796 7575875 7576719 7578020
7578441 7583332 7586938 7588620 7594305
7595235 7596017 7611396 7611397
Supported DME MSD802
7575665 7580279 7583225 7585303 7593038
7595182 8672565
